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Post by pirateman on Feb 18, 2016 10:58:34 GMT -8
Hi Jamey Is there a way to make the Raven mixer appear on the right hand side screen instead of the screen it thinks is the MAIN screen? I know you can switch monitors using the 1 -> 2 button but that also switches the windows in Logic so it doesn't solve the problem. I've even tried setting it up with the main screen on the right but that doesn't work properly and also the essentials floating window vanishes stage right when you try to add BCs to it... It is a bit of an assumption (me thinks) to assume that all users will want the mixer on the left window! Any thoughts? Danny
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Post by jameyz on Feb 18, 2016 11:38:20 GMT -8
Hi Jamey Is there a way to make the Raven mixer appear on the right hand side screen instead of the screen it thinks is the MAIN screen? I know you can switch monitors using the 1 -> 2 button but that also switches the windows in Logic so it doesn't solve the problem. I've even tried setting it up with the main screen on the right but that doesn't work properly and also the essentials floating window vanishes stage right when you try to add BCs to it... It is a bit of an assumption (me thinks) to assume that all users will want the mixer on the left window! Any thoughts? Danny Are you on Dual Ravens with Logic?? Why don't you want the Windows to switch with Raven when using the SWAPP 1-2?? If you do decide to go with Mixer on the Right screen, I will have to send you some new banking scripts. We are working on a fix for this, but the banking only works out of the box on the left screen. My floating palettes are working fine when SWAPPING. So this is confusing.. May have to take a deeper look. Or try a "restore factory default"
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Post by pirateman on Feb 19, 2016 1:31:48 GMT -8
Hey Jamey,
The pallets seem to be ok if you just use the SWAP screen option. But if you try to configure the two screens from scratch with the main screen on the right (obviously using configure composite and changing the layout within system prefs for the displays) it all goes a bit wrong. I can get the screens to display correctly and aligned correctly too....but one of the pallets vanishes (I'm guessing it uses a specific XY coordinate) when you hit CUSTOMISE TOOLBAR.
The issue with the SWAP function is partly to do with a few particular buttons that you can't move (power, customise etc.) so I can't quite have the layout the way I'd like it. The other issue (which I'm sure I'll overcome!) is some of the automator controls I've configured and labels (left right etc.) which don't make sense now!!!
Are there many users who have gone from one to two monitors? The issue over the BCs and BC groups not showing up is pretty easy to overcome by editing the scripts (a bit of a tedious task but only took 20mins or so) so they now show up fine.
Two screens is DEFINITELY the way to go if users can afford it - makes so much more sense.
Anyway, I'm carrying on with the screens reversed and would love your patch to sort the banking on the right screen, if that is ok?
Thanks Jamey!
Danny
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Post by pirateman on Feb 19, 2016 1:32:43 GMT -8
By the way, I've just realised I posted on MTI 2 - I'm on MTI 1....just so you know!
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Post by jameyz on Feb 19, 2016 8:41:06 GMT -8
Sorry you had to reprogram that all, I forgot to mention you can just open up the single ravlay right on dual to get your BCs back. It would need some customizing though.
But you will need some different banking scripts when using the mixer on the right. I will PM you the sXripts and instructions to drop them.:
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Post by pirateman on Feb 21, 2016 10:06:24 GMT -8
Hi Jamey,
Thanks for the banking scripts - I tried them but it is still a bit random - sometimes the tracks followed but other times they didn't quite catch up with themselves!
However, I seem to have a different issue which I am struggling to resolve - on my right screen when in SWAP mode, the top (2nd) rack doesn't respond properly when trying to programme BCs - when I hold down a button, the BC opens and then when I release my button it closes immediately. So it seems to be double triggering in some way. Similarly, I've noticed that some of my BCs don't work properly when triggered from this side (it is taken me all afternoon to work out that i wasn't programming things wrong!!!) - however, if I swap them back to the correct side, the BCs seem to trigger correctly....and more importantly, the 2nd row of BCs now on the right (ie. NOT in SWAP mode) work fine - so I don't think it is a screen issue - it has to be something else a little more sinister!
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Danny
PS If you can remind me how to do a screen capture I will show you what I mean...
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Post by pirateman on Feb 21, 2016 12:06:17 GMT -8
Now FIXED! Had to delete everything inc. V-Controls and the reinstall - managed to save scripts etc. and throw them back in...so there was obviously something a bit buggy with my preferences, having gone from single to dual... Hoorah!!
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Post by jameyz on Feb 21, 2016 13:07:54 GMT -8
That is good news. I know some BCs will require the Arrange window to be "Front". Since Logic changes the key commands in-between the Arrange and Mix windows.
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Post by pirateman on Feb 21, 2016 14:26:51 GMT -8
Hi Jamey, I'm afraid I spoke to soon - its back to haunt me! Nothing at all to do with Logic - I've tried every combination and even closed logic to see what happens. Having ditched everything including the prefs etc. and starting from scratch but loading up my Raven layouts, everything worked fine....and then I moved on to layout 2 and BANG there it was again - the BC window won't stay open and only one BC command will trigger when working on the RIGHT screen when in SWAP mode. There is definitely something up here! It does solve the problem if I turn off ENABLE MOUSE KEYBOARD SIMULATION - but then it is really slow to program.... Any ideas? Danny Now to add, Raven then crashed out...and when I reloaded it defaulted to a very early Raven session...this worked fine...and I was then able to load up the latest session again without the symptoms - BUT as soon as I save my session using the SAVE RAVEN SESSION....the problem returns - and then it goes again! I have attached the session file but I have just loaded it and it is fine again...really really strange... UPDATE: So I have finally established at what point the issue arises...everything appears fine until I click on a NEW layout to update...immediately the problem arises...and then it affects all other layouts. If I FORCE QUIT before saving the problem does not re-occur... So if you load up my template, SWAP screens, select layout No 3 and then hold down one of the buttons on the right hand side top row, you will (hopefully) notice that the BC will not stay open...
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Post by jameyz on Feb 21, 2016 15:05:51 GMT -8
Wow.. Thanks for posting the ravlay. You must have found a bug when saving a Ravlay in swap mode. I will experiment and see if I can track down the bug..
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Post by pirateman on Feb 21, 2016 15:18:33 GMT -8
Hi Jamey - just updated above - sorry - I hadn't refreshed...could you try the suggestion above to see it is something unique to my setup...thanks - it seems more to do with the empty layouts than saving...and if I save layout 2 over layout 3 and start to edit, the problem doesn't appear to arise...from what I can tell...
So it seems to be caused by the empty layouts??? Really weird!!!!!
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Post by jameyz on Feb 22, 2016 7:24:15 GMT -8
Ok, I see this double tap thing that is happening on your layout When I switch from layout 3 back to 1 or 2.
However I can't reproduce it when using one of the Default Ravlays.
This is a very odd bug, I will report it ASAP..
In the meantime, you may have to save your BC panels and reload the panels into a fresh Ravlay. This could be a pain since you may have to customize again.
Are you on MTi1 or Mti2??
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Post by pirateman on Feb 23, 2016 2:11:41 GMT -8
Hi Jamey, Sorry - I'm on MTI1 - I stupidly started the thread in the wrong place! On receiving the 2nd Raven, I started from scratch with the default layouts (that came with 3.0.2) and then imported my panels...so I'm thinking that possibly the bug is within the default layouts - but would only affect people like me on an MTI 1 with dual displays.... Once I worked out what was causing the issue, it was very easy to solve - as I copied my layout 1 over the blank layouts so as to avoid the problem - this worked fine...(interestingly the issue wasn't there on layout 1...) Whilst you're reading, could I make a function request (I think I mentioned it somewhere else) - please could we have a push and hold option for save layout - it is so easy to accidentally overwrite an existing layout. Perhaps push and hold SAVE LAYOUT for 3 secs and then push and hold layout number for 3 secs - would that be possible? Maybe the same for the revert to last button? Also, would you be able to PM me with a few tips (if allowed) regarding the scripts. As you know, I've been able to develop some really cool BCs using automator but only through editing existing script files - some seem to work really well but others just don't load. If you able to let me know a little about any of the script code (such as macro type and isRecording) without giving away top secret info, and possibly any particular info we need to know about creating scripts, that would save a lot of hassle. I'd be really happy to share any of the BCs I've created... Thanks Jamey! Danny PS Loving two ravens!
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Post by jameyz on Feb 23, 2016 9:01:40 GMT -8
great, I will send you a PM..
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