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Post by uliauer on Jul 13, 2015 6:44:52 GMT -8
Hey Guys,
I really need to know how to accomplish this task with BC:
I'm using Softube's Console 1 within PT11, which unfortunately does not give full support concerning the transmission of the selected track information….which forces the user to select the track (for example in order to apply a change to EQ) on the Console 1's track number matrix completely separate from the PT mixer - which is extremely bothering.
As a workaround, I found out that I can force the Console 1 to change automatically to the (in the PT mixer) selected track's related EQ by deactivating and reactivating that insert slot the Console 1 plugin sits in. Pretty cool, hm…?!
But the coolest thing on earth would be using BC to open/select the appropriate Console1 EQ on the in PT already selected track with one button on the BC remote app…!
I just downloaded the demo of BC, and I think I could get it done by using the "show selected tracks" and later the unfolding "show all tracks" quick list commands…..but how can I perform a combination of holding CTRL+CMD and clicking on let's say the button of insert C….? Is it already possible to do that or would there be a need for waiting for a future update…?
And is there any way of programming such mouse-clicks or movements by oneself?
Please help…..you really would make so many Console 1 users very, very happy…!!!!!
Best regards,
uli
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Post by jameyz on Jul 13, 2015 15:38:37 GMT -8
That is totally possible.. In the edit window, select the track Then use this BC for doing insert A. OPEN SOFTUBE INSERT A.ravbc (626 B) it will 1. Fit track to screen "CNTRL+CMND+Cursor Up" 2. Click insert 1 Edit window, this in the Post Tab Quicklist 3. Make Open Plug In Inactive 4. Make Open Plug in Active you could make a button for whatever insert the plugin is on so have 4 buttons that do insert 1-4. Just change click insert A with B and C.  |
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Post by uliauer on Jul 14, 2015 2:56:38 GMT -8
That's cool. Thanks so far….but what I don't understand: Is it only possible having the edit window on the same screen as BC…..? I'm working on 3 displays (1 Edit, 1 Mixer, 1 Plugs), and I've read in the BC manual or at least understood it in the way that it's recommended having BC sitting on the mixer window to perform certain BC's….
And how do I "undo" the CTRL+CMD+Cursor Up Command in order to get my former track view back (didn't know that command so far..)…?
Best regards,
uli
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Post by jameyz on Jul 14, 2015 8:28:37 GMT -8
That's cool. Thanks so far….but what I don't understand: Is it only possible having the edit window on the same screen as BC…..? I'm working on 3 displays (1 Edit, 1 Mixer, 1 Plugs), and I've read in the BC manual or at least understood it in the way that it's recommended having BC sitting on the mixer window to perform certain BC's…. And how do I "undo" the CTRL+CMD+Cursor Up Command in order to get my former track view back (didn't know that command so far..)…? Best regards, uli The mixer is better since its alignment is more predictable then the edit window.. Just change "Click Insert A Edit Window" to "click Insert 1 Mix Window" To get tracks back to screen size use "CNTRL+CMND+OPT+CURSOR UP" |
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Post by uliauer on Jul 15, 2015 3:55:32 GMT -8
Uhm……sorry for appearing numb…..;-/ but I can't find that command (click insert 1 MIX window) in the quick list…..or can I edit it simply text wise somehow…? And IF I would find that command - should't I do it then by using the "show selected tracks" and later the unfolding "show all tracks" …? Cause the "CTRL+CMD+CursorUp" still does its job in the edit window and not in the mix window even when the mix window is selected….. Anyway: When I use the commands you wrote in your last post, BC performs a totally different command ! Instead of making the insert C inactive - the mouse arrow first jumps to the lower middle of the Console 1 plugin window, but then it doesn't make it inactive/active but opens the automation dialogue instead and selects "Input gain"….  ? Tried that with both BC laying on mix and edit window……;-///... Bug…? Any hints on that…? Thanks again in advance..! Uli |
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Post by jameyz on Jul 15, 2015 9:14:29 GMT -8
You are not numb. I guess there isn't a click for insert a in the mix window..
But that doesn't really matter as those click are meant for the far left of the inserts, so if there is already a plugin on the track it will replace them. So there isn't really a way to open it up..
I think the edit window will be the way to go, you probably just have to align your edit window so the clicks will hit the right mark on the inserts.
what happens if you just hit "bypass make in active current open plugin" while the Console 1 is open?? it sounds like you are saying it doesn't make it inactive.. I don't see why this would happen..
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Post by uliauer on Jul 15, 2015 12:30:26 GMT -8
Sorry, but I can't describe it better than I already did….I attached a screenshot of the batch command - just in case I still did sth wrong - and a movie clip showing what happens when performing it…..by the way: the BC does not apply the last command that should change back to the normal track view…..sth to do with the entered delay times in the command…? too bad…..;-( What can I do….? Best regards, Uli |
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Post by jameyz on Jul 15, 2015 14:00:12 GMT -8
The BC i made you should be run with the plug in closed, Then select the track and press the BC.
if you already have the plug in up just use..
1. Bypass make inactive with a repeat of 2.
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Post by uliauer on Jul 16, 2015 3:34:20 GMT -8
Sorry that I have to say that, but this is really a time-consuming mess…..BC seems to be a nice idea, but still in kind of a beta status though….! Or it just might be still painfully limited by the many varieties of possible monitor or better window layouts….maybe there are display resolutions BC can't handle well ….? Mine is 2560x1440 (Main monitor used currently BC on) and two times 1920x1200….. I did everything you said, but still there are pretty weird things going on….up to deleting some of my VCA groups…. I've experimented a lot with fine-tuning the alignment of the sidebar a little left or right to the red line (which by the way disappears (at least in my multi-display setup) when I try to align it to the sidebar of my now edit window main monitor and only reappears when I click on something in another monitor !) since the way the mouse went along trying to click in the insert chain button seemed to be a little too far left. Anyway: Using the command in full (and just for trying that also, with long delay times of 1s) still doesn't work properly. The mouse tries to get somewhere else and clicks on the spot mode instead. When I aligned the side bar a little more left, the mouse arrow hit the insert button opening the Console 1 plugin window (which was closed before!) but then goes the same strange way to the automation select as described in my last post….;-((((((( P.S: After reading my post again, I tested using the (full) command on BC and edit window on one of the smaller 1920x1200 displays as main monitor - result: another version of chaotic behavior - hides all tracks (including the one that was selected before launching "batch chaos") except 6 tracks that don't have anything in common that would make sense - they were not selected, and they are not even close to each other in the track list…… ??!!!! Pretty annoying….. |
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Post by jameyz on Jul 16, 2015 8:13:51 GMT -8
I have been using the Batch commander for over a year now and couldn't imagine my engineering life without it. I don't have the console plugin or else I would be able to test this.. have you tried with using another plugin?? maybe try an avid one... The screen resolution shouldn't matter.. Instead of launching all at once, just try launching "click insert a edit window" and see if it clicks the right spot. There is also a BC in the QL called " align edit window" try using that to double check. The red line is only for the mix window. pM me your email address and we can setup a screen share session and I will get it working for u. Here is a video I shot of it doing the sequence.. here is the script again too with some adjustments.. SOFT TUBBER SCRIPT.ravbc (998 B) |
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Post by uliauer on Jul 17, 2015 2:52:30 GMT -8
Hey again….thanks for your efforts…..! And sorry for my little rude speaking in the last post…..but I'm sure you know what moods ca be caused by issues like that….;-)
I think we're getting closer….good hint trying the click command alone...
i found out that I had to get rid of my universe view (which I really love to use---;-( ), my "instruments" category in the track view of the edit window (that's something I can definitely live without in daily use) and had to add the "key" ruler (which I normally don't need at all) in order to align the click spot of that command.
So but what do the alignment BC's do…? I tried the one you mentioned as well as the command "align edit window rulers and inserts" thinking that this could probably bring back the opportunity to use the universe (is this possible?) but it did't change anything (visible) for me….
Then, having the click alone on the insert button aligned properly, the command still doesn't work on my system. I found out that at the point when the mouse - in your video / setup - goes to the then opened plug window on my system it fails choosing "deactivate" in the (obviously right-clicked) drop down menu but goes a little deeper instead which causes the process I described earlier : It opens up the automation dialogue which sits two lines deeper….so how can I "align" that problem….? Has it to do with a certain mouse speed or behavior that has to be chosen in the macOS system prefs…? But then the other click only command should't work as well…..
I'll send you a pM now….
best regards to everybody…..
Uli
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Post by jameyz on Jul 17, 2015 8:29:47 GMT -8
Ok, So I think I know why it isn't deactivating the open insert.. I made the script using English Pro Tools, so when it clicks the drop menu it types "Make inactive" where are your screen shot you sent it is called "Deaktivieren" ... Pro Tools will need to be set to english for most of the Batch Commands to work.. However your keyboard can remain in your regular language.. BUT.. When you make a new script on Batch Commander you will need to switch to US keyboard since BCer will not recognize certain characters on other languages..
I will mess around with some BCs and try to get the "Make inactive" to use "deaktivieren" so you won't have to switch PT language. But be aware most other Batch Commands will not work..
peace
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? Tried that with both BC laying on mix and edit window……;-///...