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Post by RoninImperial on Jun 6, 2016 10:19:07 GMT -8
Hi,
I'm having an issue when banking or scrolling tracks within the internal mixer and the raven skin. The logic mixer moves properly, but the raven skin doesn't match the appropriate channels. They will either be slightly off, or sometimes an entire bank off.
I had this problem using OS X 10.11.3 and now also 10.11.5, running Logic Pro X 10.2.2
My raven setup has been working fine when less than 1 bank of tracks, but when using more than 24 channels, the issue occurs. What can I do to fix? Is this a setup issue, or maybe a bug??
Regards,
Ronin
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Post by jameyz on Jun 6, 2016 12:19:21 GMT -8
Hi, I'm having an issue when banking or scrolling tracks within the internal mixer and the raven skin. The logic mixer moves properly, but the raven skin doesn't match the appropriate channels. They will either be slightly off, or sometimes an entire bank off. I had this problem using OS X 10.11.3 and now also 10.11.5, running Logic Pro X 10.2.2 My raven setup has been working fine when less than 1 bank of tracks, but when using more than 24 channels, the issue occurs. What can I do to fix? Is this a setup issue, or maybe a bug?? Regards, Ronin Banking right 1 and 24 works fine here. What side is your dock on? Can you upload a video of the issue?? What I do notice is banking left 24 from the far right, will sometime be off depending on how many tracks there are. Since if there are an uneven amount of tracks, Raven will do a half bank instead of a full 24. I have also noticed the banking not working great on Spanish language systems since this changes the size of the Logic Mixer. For navigating around large sessions I prefer to use "Group Show Hide" to focus in on specific tracks. Check out a video on how to set those up. www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h8TpwDNMa4 |
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Post by RoninImperial on Jun 6, 2016 12:29:17 GMT -8
Hey Jameyz,
My dock is on the bottom of the screen but hidden unless scrolled over. I've just uncovered a separate problem within my computer that I need to address first before I dive into this problem (and maybe it might fix it as a by product, fingers crossed!). I will get back into this after i've sorted out my other issue first.
Thanks for replying!
Ronin
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Post by RoninImperial on Jun 10, 2016 9:44:26 GMT -8
Hi Jameyz,
I've recorded a video, but is approx. 165 MB in size. Where can I submit this video?
Regards,
Ronin
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Post by jameyz on Jun 10, 2016 9:51:05 GMT -8
Hi Jameyz, I've recorded a video, but is approx. 165 MB in size. Where can I submit this video? Regards, Ronin Upload it to YouTube as unlisted, then email me a link to it. Or add the link to your current support ticket. |
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Post by jameyz on Jun 10, 2016 9:52:49 GMT -8
You can also try resetting your V control by deleting the controller from the logic controller set up. This has solve some issues for me in the past.
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Post by jameyz on Jun 11, 2016 9:35:48 GMT -8
Hi Jameyz, I've recorded a video, but is approx. 165 MB in size. Where can I submit this video? Regards, Ronin Ok, I have seen the video of the banking things you are talking about. Your system is acting just like mine, so you are setup correctly. 1. You will always have to use the Banking buttons to keep Raven and Logic in sync, if you scroll only the Logic mixer this doesn't send HUI information so Raven will loose sync. 2. Depending on how many tracks are in the session, the 1st track on the left when banking 24 will get smaller then the others, since Logic seems to allow half a fader showing when banking, I wish they would add a smart feature where it always snapped to show the full fader. 3. The master track keeps the fader in the middle unlike the rest of the logic faders which are to the left of the meter. So this will cause the Raven skin to not show correctly on the master track, however the fader will still work. We are always working on making the internal mixers better, so I am sure in the future we will be able to iron out these inconstancies. In the mean time, try setting up some group show hide tracks to easily fader focus. |
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Post by klangheld on Oct 12, 2016 15:38:43 GMT -8
Hello together internal Mixer issue here in switzerland too. I'm not sure if it's the same problem. Running Logic 10.2.4 on an iMac 27" with El Capitan 10.11.6 with the raven software 3.2 on an raven mti2 First of all: the automatic raven setup didn't work properly. There is a key-Command bug in the raven-keycommands. I fixed this but the internal mixer won't align right with more than 23 Tracks the mixer will not sync korrect. also in the external raven mixer i can not scroll correctly through my tracks mixing with more than 23 Tracks is not really working like this i've made a video to show you youtu.be/6LpnEZnCeeothanx for your help |
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Post by jameyz on Oct 12, 2016 20:07:01 GMT -8
Hello together internal Mixer issue here in switzerland too. I'm not sure if it's the same problem. Running Logic 10.2.4 on an iMac 27" with El Capitan 10.11.6 with the raven software 3.2 on an raven mti2 First of all: the automatic raven setup didn't work properly. There is a key-Command bug in the raven-keycommands. I fixed this but the internal mixer won't align right with more than 23 Tracks the mixer will not sync korrect. also in the external raven mixer i can not scroll correctly through my tracks mixing with more than 23 Tracks is not really working like this i've made a video to show you youtu.be/6LpnEZnCeeothanx for your help Hi thank you for the video, that is very helpful. 1. I think the key commands will not work since you are on a german keyboard and I think your Z and X keys are gonna be swapped so that maybe throwing off the Raven Key Commands, you will have to program your own key commands. We hope to support all languages in the future and German is on the top of the list. 2. The banking looks like it was working, however since the master fader has a different look then the rest of the Audio tracks, the fader is not drawing. The way that Logic Pro X banks and leaves the first fader halfway scrolled I think it whats throwing it off. Try clicking the first track so that the whole track is showing. Maybe you can try "Thin" fader mode. 3. In the external mixer, you may need to use a 1 finger swipe or press and hold the banking button to have it bank by 1. Since there aren't another 24 tracks to bank too, the external mixer will not scroll to the last fader when using Bank 24. Since the setup buttons don't work in German, here is an article on how to align the Logic Internal Mixer by importing Screensets. I find these easier then settings up by hand.
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Post by hocusprocus on Oct 13, 2016 3:08:44 GMT -8
Same Issue here with Italian keyboard..
No go with US Extended keyboard as well.
My Logic pro X is in english
Banking doesnt work at all..even importing the template screensets.
This locale keyboard issue is a major issue, I've had same problem with ProTools (in english as well)
This is very upsetting :-(
edit: Managed to fix it manually but after lot of attempts... again, we'd like to concentrate on something else.
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Post by jameyz on Oct 13, 2016 7:02:26 GMT -8
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Post by hocusprocus on Oct 13, 2016 23:58:49 GMT -8
Right now it's aligned...still not perfect though.
But you know it's not good at all to run a first-time calibration that goes wrong because it's not been tested properly.
Calibration is the most important operation for raven and should have been checked on every language, it's not about translating the UI or manuals in every language because we're happy to run it with english DAWs, just map every keyboard like every DAW does, even the cheapest one.
In fact trying to use the Logic pro X edit tools in BC I've found that setting US keyboard the BC acts in a way..and for the IT keyboard in another way.y
Got to try again that because yesterday I was too mad...
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Post by jameyz on Oct 14, 2016 6:23:27 GMT -8
Right now it's aligned...still not perfect though. But you know it's not good at all to run a first-time calibration that goes wrong because it's not been tested properly. Calibration is the most important operation for raven and should have been checked on every language, it's not about translating the UI or manuals in every language because we're happy to run it with english DAWs, just map every keyboard like every DAW does, even the cheapest one. In fact trying to use the Logic pro X edit tools in BC I've found that setting US keyboard the BC acts in a way..and for the IT keyboard in another way.y Got to try again that because yesterday I was too mad... I think you mean "Alignment" instead of Calibration, the MTI2 shouldn't need to be calibrated. I find it is much easier to just import screen sets instead of running through the whole setup phase. The Setup button is only to get the Raven going the very first time it is opened. Plus if you are using multiple displays, you will can just import your own screen sets that utilize all the displays.
To easily sync up the Logic Mixer import the screen set from the Raven Template session from /Users/Name/Music/Audio Music Apps/Project Templates.
Here is an article on how to align the Logic Internal Mixer.
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Post by hocusprocus on Oct 17, 2016 5:49:14 GMT -8
That's not what's written in the User Manual...and where an user looks for first operations. "The RAVEN Internal Mixer is an integrated overlay designed to seamlessly align with the Logic Pro X full-screen Mix Window. It is important to follow the alignment procedure carefully to succeed in aligning the two windows to create a successful overlay. ALIGNING THE RAVEN INTERNAL MIXER To align the Logic Pro X Mixer with the RAVEN Internal Mixer, hit Settings on the RAVEN Toolbar and hit, “RAVEN Setup.” Your RAVEN will automatically configure Logic Pro X to size correctly with the RAVEN Internal Mixer. Then, just save the changes as a Screen Set and lock it, so you can reference this quick and easily." By the way...Now I've the raven template layout but no go AT ALL I've still issues, my solo button is perfectly aligned but as my session gets little complicated some meters are hidden and banking problems occurs. Attachments:
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Post by jameyz on Oct 17, 2016 6:12:59 GMT -8
That's not what's written in the User Manual...and where an user looks for first operations. "The RAVEN Internal Mixer is an integrated overlay designed to seamlessly align with the Logic Pro X full-screen Mix Window. It is important to follow the alignment procedure carefully to succeed in aligning the two windows to create a successful overlay. ALIGNING THE RAVEN INTERNAL MIXER To align the Logic Pro X Mixer with the RAVEN Internal Mixer, hit Settings on the RAVEN Toolbar and hit, “RAVEN Setup.” Your RAVEN will automatically configure Logic Pro X to size correctly with the RAVEN Internal Mixer. Then, just save the changes as a Screen Set and lock it, so you can reference this quick and easily." By the way...Now I've the raven template layout but no go AT ALL I've still issues, my solo button is perfectly aligned but as my session gets little complicated some meters are hidden and banking problems occurs. The manual was written before we found out about importing Screensets. Are those Multi-Output Tracks or track stacks of certain kinds?? I think that is why the meters aren't showing up. The internal mixer doesn't fully support Multi-output tracks yet. On big sessions the logic mixer does get cut off on the left, this has to do with logic allowing "half a fader" to show in the mixer instead of just "snapping" to show the whole fader. You maybe better off using the External Mixer for big session with Multi Output tracks. You can also break the session down into smaller sizes. www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h8TpwDNMa4 |
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Post by hocusprocus on Oct 17, 2016 8:10:13 GMT -8
it was a drummer track...that's one of the most important logic utilities.
External mixer meters are very slow...almost fixed. Got to do a short clip about that.
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Post by jameyz on Oct 17, 2016 11:43:39 GMT -8
it was a drummer track...that's one of the most important logic utilities. External mixer meters are very slow...almost fixed. Got to do a short clip about that. The way that Logic changes the GUI when using any Multi-Output track it will mess with the Raven detection and will not show the meters. We will definitively support these types of tracks in the next update. There is just so many variables for the type of tracks in the Logic Mixer, and they all use different GUIs, so this is a lot to account for with the Internal Mixer sync.. |
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Post by hocusprocus on Oct 17, 2016 23:13:14 GMT -8
So Logic Pro X is not fully supported yet.
I hope it will be in the next future.
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Post by jameyz on Oct 18, 2016 6:27:33 GMT -8
So Logic Pro X is not fully supported yet. I hope it will be in the next future. Logic has been fully supported for 3 years now. The Internal mixer was a new addition for Raven 3.0 added in the last year. |
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